Comments on: The Second Coming (Out) of Gay Men – Part II http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/ Commentary on Being Gay in Mid-Life and Beyond Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:50:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Loren A. Olson M.D. http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-14362 Loren A. Olson M.D. Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:54:24 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-14362 I'd be interested in hearing you say more about your thinking. I’d be interested in hearing you say more about your thinking.

]]> By: Event Management Courses http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-14349 Event Management Courses Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:55:19 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-14349 i think that gay marriage should be allowed in certain states but not in other states '-- i think that gay marriage should be allowed in certain states but not in other states ‘–

]]> By: A Chinese University Student Asks, “What am I? For whom do I live?” (Part II): | Magnetic Fire http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-11346 A Chinese University Student Asks, “What am I? For whom do I live?” (Part II): | Magnetic Fire Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:13:10 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-11346 [...] you said on MagneticFire ["Why do Some Younger Men Like Older Gay Men?"], I was not taking him as a “sugar daddy.” My university is very good. At least in job [...] [...] you said on MagneticFire ["Why do Some Younger Men Like Older Gay Men?"], I was not taking him as a “sugar daddy.” My university is very good. At least in job [...]

]]> By: Serena Yates http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-444 Serena Yates Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:15:20 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-444 Like you said in your part 1, Loren, the basic 'intergenerational' aspect of these relationships isn't that different from heterosexual relationships of that type. Society being what it is, though, these 'younger woman/older man' relationships are tolerated - even though, by the same token, they could be called father/daughter relationships. Watch the uproar over that statement if it is voiced in 'polite' company! Just goes to show the deep-seated heterosexist prejudice that an older male interested in a much younger woman is showing 'prowess'. There is no justice in this, but I think it goes back to the biological principles that drive most heterosexual people. Any thinking human being should be able to recognize what is behind the 'acceptance' of those relationships (biology) as much as what is behind the prejudice against intergenerational homosexual relatoinships (fear and lack of understanding). Serena Like you said in your part 1, Loren, the basic ‘intergenerational’ aspect of these relationships isn’t that different from heterosexual relationships of that type. Society being what it is, though, these ‘younger woman/older man’ relationships are tolerated – even though, by the same token, they could be called father/daughter relationships.

Watch the uproar over that statement if it is voiced in ‘polite’ company! Just goes to show the deep-seated heterosexist prejudice that an older male interested in a much younger woman is showing ‘prowess’. There is no justice in this, but I think it goes back to the biological principles that drive most heterosexual people.

Any thinking human being should be able to recognize what is behind the ‘acceptance’ of those relationships (biology) as much as what is behind the prejudice against intergenerational homosexual relatoinships (fear and lack of understanding).

Serena

]]> By: Loren A. Olson M.D. http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-443 Loren A. Olson M.D. Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:01:36 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-443 Thanks for commenting. I understand your feelings about "sugar daddy" because it really diminishes the younger partner, suggesting you're either unable to take care of yourself or just free loading on someone else's success. I think by some more open discussion about the topic people will come to understand that most of these relationships are based on loving one another. Loren Olson Thanks for commenting. I understand your feelings about “sugar daddy” because it really diminishes the younger partner, suggesting you’re either unable to take care of yourself or just free loading on someone else’s success.

I think by some more open discussion about the topic people will come to understand that most of these relationships are based on loving one another.

Loren Olson

]]> By: Loren A. Olson M.D. http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-442 Loren A. Olson M.D. Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:57:38 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-442 I'm happy you're finding the information useful and I hope you'll share it with your friends. Whe I was your age, there was NOTHING available anywhere. I will address the "Father"/"Son" aspects of some intergenerational relationships another time. Although this comes up from time to time, others react very negatively to it because of its suggestion of incest and pedophilia, which it certainly isn't according to most men I've talked to about it. Part III will address some of that, so come back again. Loren Olson I’m happy you’re finding the information useful and I hope you’ll share it with your friends. Whe I was your age, there was NOTHING available anywhere.

I will address the “Father”/”Son” aspects of some intergenerational relationships another time. Although this comes up from time to time, others react very negatively to it because of its suggestion of incest and pedophilia, which it certainly isn’t according to most men I’ve talked to about it. Part III will address some of that, so come back again.

Loren Olson

]]> By: West http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-441 West Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:26:11 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-441 WOW! I never knew the background or anything when it came to intergenerational relationships. I also never knew it had a name other than "Father & Son" relationships. As an 18 year old homosexual male, I understand the risks that some men take in being interested in someone my age, but what I did not know was that older men may have a difficult time with my age. My thought-process was if they're older,they will be happy in knowing they are attractive enough, potent enough, etc. to be noticed by a younger person. I really can understand what they may be going through...it may even explain some of the recent behavior I've been encountering from an older man I've been talking to. Thanks Loren! WOW! I never knew the background or anything when it came to intergenerational relationships. I also never knew it had a name other than “Father & Son” relationships. As an 18 year old homosexual male, I understand the risks that some men take in being interested in someone my age, but what I did not know was that older men may have a difficult time with my age. My thought-process was if they’re older,they will be happy in knowing they are attractive enough, potent enough, etc. to be noticed by a younger person. I really can understand what they may be going through…it may even explain some of the recent behavior I’ve been encountering from an older man I’ve been talking to.

Thanks Loren!

]]> By: Rob http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-439 Rob Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:36:01 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-439 Found this post via twitter. What a great post! My husband is over 20 yrs older than me and we've been together for 10 years. It's a relationship that has worked well for us. People's reactions to us (both lgbt and hetero) have been interesting. It's been a mixed bag. Sometimes its the hetero couples/people that have been more accepting of our relationship. Sometimes not. The sugar daddy remarks have always irked me. Anyway, thanks for the great article. Got your site bookmarked for further reading. Found this post via twitter. What a great post!

My husband is over 20 yrs older than me and we’ve been together for 10 years. It’s a relationship that has worked well for us.

People’s reactions to us (both lgbt and hetero) have been interesting. It’s been a mixed bag. Sometimes its the hetero couples/people that have been more accepting of our relationship. Sometimes not. The sugar daddy remarks have always irked me.

Anyway, thanks for the great article. Got your site bookmarked for further reading.

]]> By: Loren A. Olson M.D. http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-438 Loren A. Olson M.D. Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:11 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-438 Thanks for leaving your comment and I look forward to checking out The <a href="http://www.theblackoutblog.com" rel="nofollow">BlackoutBlog</a> Thanks for leaving your comment and I look forward to checking out The BlackoutBlog

]]> By: TheBlackoutBlog http://www.magneticfire.com/2010/01/22/the-second-coming-out-of-gay-men-%e2%80%93-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-437 TheBlackoutBlog Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:45:31 +0000 http://www.magneticfire.com/?p=965#comment-437 As someone whose relationships are almost exclusively intergenerational, I sincerely appreciate you discussing this subject! Thank you. As someone whose relationships are almost exclusively intergenerational, I sincerely appreciate you discussing this subject! Thank you.

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